Right?
So here's some sucky news: My car needs a new engine. Oh, yay.
The worst part is that owner error is a major piece of the puzzle here. The engine was almost out of oil ... but dammit, the oil light didn't go on until the day before I took it in! But still, obviously I had neglected to get regular oil changes this past year, which is very strange behavior on my part; normally I take it in on a fairly regular schedule, and I can't think why I would have neglected this habit this past year, other than that it was a pretty crazy year. And I don't know why exactly that this is "the worst part," and the goal here is not to assign blame. But obviously any blame falls on my shoulders. Big sigh.
Okay, but enough self-flagellation. The thing to decide is what to do. Do we (a) pay for the new engine? (b) sell/donate it and buy a new car? or (c) sell/donate it and become a one-car family?
D. brought up option (c), but I think that's a very difficult option. D. is going to be teaching courses at our local community college in the fall (oh, I don't think I'd shared that news. Exciting, isn't it? Yay!), so being a one-car family would mean that she had to drop me off at school early each morning and then pick me up later, which seems like way too much of a pain in the ass. Yes, there's public transportation in Adventure City, but it is not at all convenient to where we live or where we work. So I'm scratching option (c) off the list.
So now we're down to options (a) and (b), so here's some relevant info:
- The car is a 2000 Toyota Camry. Yes, it's old, but its a Toyota, and it's been a good car. Comfortable, good gas mileage, respectable appearance.
- We don't yet have the cost for the new engine -- we'll get the figure mid-morning tomorrow -- but the service guy told me that the ballpark would be $2600. (Gulp.) Plus it needs new brakepads (~$390) and possibly tires ($450 or so?). So let's call it $5000, which I hope is an overestimate.
- Now, we definitely wouldn't get $5000 if we were selling the car or trading it in.
- But the cost of a new car -- by which I mean "used but new to us" -- would be more. I just looked up some used cars from our local dealer and found used cars between $7,000 and $11,000. There was a 2006 Toyota Corolla with only 36,000 miles on it for $11,000, for example. So would it be worth paying an extra $6,000 to have a newer car and presumably some sort of warranty?
- I've been doing some online reading just now, and I found a website that claims that if you're going to keep the car for at least two more years, it's worth it to get a new engine and keep the car.
Sigh. What to do, what to do? Any advice?
And no matter whether we choose option (a) or (b), I promise faithfully to get the oil changed regularly!
I always hate that "cost of repair is more than the car is worth" point. With our first car, that was the point at which we traded in for a new car, but we also wanted 4 doors and a/c. Right now we kind of like our cars, so we might keep them longer even if the cost of repair is more than the value of the car because we know they're not lemons.
We did the one-car commute thing for a couple of years and it was kind of fun, but DH's work was on the way to my work (or vice versa depending on the route) one of those years and the other year he was working from home.
So, no specific advice from the grumpy nation.
Our general advice is to pay for cars with cash except in cases in which you need the car to get to work and don't have the money. (rule: Don't finance a depreciating asset unless you are the appreciating asset.)
Congratulations on the community college job! Yay!
Posted by: nicoleandmaggie | July 18, 2014 at 09:51 AM
N&M, I was hoping you'd pop by! I meant to post this last night but managed to keep it in draft instead, which means that today is the day to make a decision.
D. and I spent some time this morning looking online at used cars, and then we finally got the phone call from the shop about the price of the new motor: $3,728.66 with parts and labor. Plus $300 for new brakepads.
This morning I was totally thinking that we should just buy a new-to-us car, but once I got the call with the official pricetag, I started going back to the idea of putting in a new motor. We have the cash to pay for the new motor right now, while getting a used car would require financing.
I've put in a call back to the service guy with a few follow-up questions, which he may or may not be able to answer. What I really want to know is whether, if we spend this money now, I can reasonably expect to drive the car another 3-4 years. If so, I think we should just make the repair, because it's been a darn good car. And maybe in 3 years, we'll be in a better financial position to consider getting a new-to-us car.
Posted by: What Now? | July 18, 2014 at 11:18 AM
The other question to think about is what do you expect to spend on repairs in the next 3-4 years. (It doesn't matter if it's BEEN a good car, it matters if it WILL BE a good car). Obviously this requires magic crystal ball skills, but if you know that new belts/tires/water pump etc are coming your way on top of the new motor then that's worth factoring in.
Congratulations to D on the teaching job! That's super exciting all around! Hooray!
Posted by: hypatia cade | July 18, 2014 at 01:27 PM
I'm probably chiming in too late, but just in case not: check out the integrity of the pieces that hold the engine in/up, and the availability of replacements. I replaced the transmission in a car in its teens several times (should have gone with the rebuilt/remanufactured one the first time, rather than trying to save money with one straight from the junkyard), and it (and the engine) were working just fine when I finally had to donate the car because a piece of the subframe rusted and fell down in front of the wheels, the part was no longer made, and all the ones available in junkyards were equally rusted. All parts of cars --mechanical and structural -- seem to have gotten a lot better, but the structural ones can still be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
That said, I'd go (and did go) for the car you know over an older unknown quantity (theoretically, I'm someone who thinks buying a several-years-used car and keeping it forever is a good idea; in practice, the two times I've bought a car in my life, I've ended up buying a new one, in part because the kind of car I want is the kind bought by people who don't trade them in after a year or two, and that tend to hold their value pretty well over the first few years, making the warranty worth the small additional cost.)
Posted by: Contingent Cassanrda | July 19, 2014 at 07:18 AM
I hate to think of you flagellating yourself. It is not unheard of for a 14-year-old car to need a new engine! Or for said car to drink more oil than usual. I don't really have advice except to say that I could make a case for either avenue.
Congratulations on D's job!
Posted by: meansomething | July 20, 2014 at 12:17 AM